• david

    shut up about kobe having a team .. shaw and pau are the only two all stars kobes ever really played with yea he had van exel and ed jones but i dont consider than really anything to brag about .. btw lamar odom never made an all star game …. neither has bynum or fish or ron or horry or fox so stfu about him having suh a great team … hes just like jordan he makes the players around him better

  • Katrell

    Some of you people dont know what you are talking about, think about it Lebron IS IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE !!! A CONFERENCE WITH ONLY ONE OR TWO CONSISTENT BIG MEN. Of course lebron can bring his team to the finals, with nobodies, okay, so what? Thats why they got swept in the finals by the spurs, Lebron had Shaq, yes Shaq is old but how come he coulndt make Shaq better if he is so great if u put the old shaq on the lakers and trade Bynum the Lakers would just keep winning rings, dont get me wrong lebron is the most talented and gifted player, yes but he has no real skill, he travels alot everyone knows that, but he is faster than kobe and can jump higher than kobe. But Kobe is the most skilled player and the best defensive player Kobe can lock anyone down including players bigger than him lebron could never stop Kobe, anyway yes it is a team game but think about it jackasses, look how many star players mj had pippen, rodman, and outstanding role players in steve kerr, kuicoc, longley, ron harper, Kobe only has gasol and fisher, and fisher isnt consitent, kobe made gasol better!!!

  • katrell

    to miamitothefinals, im sorry but ur an idiot if u pay attention lebron has to put up big numbers to win and he was put in that situation since he got there, wen kobe came into the leage he was BEHIND EDDIE JONES, AND THEN HE HAD SHAQ KOBE DIDNT HAVE TO PUT UP NUMBERS LIKE LEBRON DID, you sayin lebron took his team the finals, ok lebron is in the freakin east, filled with teams with losing records making the playoffs, and then his ass got swept in the finals, kobe never got swept and koibe is a winner, and lebron lost to all the teams kobe won against in the playoffs, magic and celtics, lebron loss to the celtics twice, kobe didnt lebron chokes under pressure thats why he hasnt won anything thats why a players legacy is deteremined by rings cuz thats where the most pressure is lebron is not clutch, like the guy cnt even hit his freethrows like he should AND LEBRON TRAVELS EVERYGAME HE HAS NO FOOTWORK HE CAN JUST JUMP AND OVER POWER PEOPLE YOU IDIOT

  • KATRELL

    and kobe HAS NOT ALWAYS HAD SUPERSTARS, ARE FUCKING KIDDING ME DNT FORGET WEN THE LAKERS LOST SHAQ THE LAKERS HAD NO BODY, THEY MISSED THE PLAYOFFS ONE TIME, LEBRON MISSED THE PLAYOFFS TWICE ALREADY, THEN THE LAKERS MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS CARRYING HIS TEAM AND HAVING THE SCORING TITLE AND MAKING FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSE, THE WAY YOU DETERMINE THE BEST PLAYER IS THE PLAYER THAT CAN DELIVER WEN THEY ABSOLUTLEY NEED TO ON A CONSITENT BASIS, AND KOBE HAS DONE IT OVER AND OVER, AND AGAINST SOME OF THE BEST TEAMS, LEBRONS FIRST GAME WINNING BUZZER BEATER CAME AGAINST THE WARRIORS, THE NEXT WAS THE MAGIC IN THE PLAYOFFS WHICH THEY LOST THAT SERIES. AND LEBRON WILL TELL YOU HISELF THAT KOBE IS BETTER LIKE WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GOOD SUPPORTING CLASS DOESNT MEAN UR GONNA WIN, THE BIG THREE IN BOSTON COULDNT WIN AGAIN AGAINST THE LAKERS, KARL MALONE AND STOCKTON COULDNT WIN ONE, BARKLY AND HAKEEM OLIJUAWAN COULDNT WIN ONE, NASH STOUDEMIRE, Q RICH, JOE JOHNSON, AND BARBOSA COULDNT EVEN GET TO THE FINALS, DUNCAN GINOBILI AND PARKER ONLY HAS FOUR, AND WHAT ABOUT THE CHAMPIONSHIP PISTONS, THE HAD NOOOOOOOOOOO SUPERSTARS AND THEY BEAT THE LAKERS, SO UR ARGUMENTS ON KOBE HAVING A BETTER SUPPORTING CAST ARE FILLED WITH IGNORANCE AND ARE NULL AND VOID

  • KATRELL

    AND BYNUM???? BYNUM?? ARE U KIDDING ME? BYNUM, AND ODOM, THEY ARE SO INCONSISTENT, BYNUM DIDNT DO ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT HE WAS ON THE BENCH WEN THE LAKERS MADE THEIR COMBACK SMH LOL BYNUM??? THE ONLY PERSON BRYANT HAS IS GASOL AND SOMETIMES FISHER, ITS NO KOBE OR LEBRONS FAULT THAT MO WILIAMS CNT HIT SHOTS IN THE POST SEASON, OR THE JAMISON AND SHAQ CNT DELIVER ITS UNFORTUNATE BUT DOENST HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH LEBRON OR KOBE BEING BETTER THAN ONE ANOTHER KOBE PUSHES HIS TEAM THE MAX HIS FIRE AND DETERMINATION AND TENACITY ARE WHAT MAKES HIS TEAMATES PLAY BETTER SHIT, IF KOBE WAS IN THE EAST HE WOULD HAVE TAKEN HIS TEAM TO THE FINALS TOO, THE EAST IS GARBAGE WELL WAS GARBAGE WEN LEBRON MADE IT TO THE FINALS THE ONLY TEAM WAS THE PISTONS, KOBE WOULD PROBABLY AVERAGE 35 AGAIN EASILY AND KOBE CAN WIN A RING IN THE EAST CUZ HES ALREADY FAMILAR WITH ALL THE WEST TEAMS AND KNOWS HOW TO BEAT THEM

  • the truth

    STFU all of you are just speaking mindless dribble that will never lead to anywhere

  • Ivoine

    I am flabbergasted how the jealousy has cause everyone to get crazy. In the back of every coach or owner’s mind in the NBA, they all wished that they had the smarts to create this kind of team. I am stunned to see how racist Americans could not wait to inject their superiority complex. Ray Charles could see that Miami Heat is a strong contender for the Championship of the NBA 2010-2011. Michael Jordon, Dan Gilbert, previous records and performances, and the petty narrowmindedness could not stop that from happening. Like it or not, believe it or not, the Miami Heat will cause plenty sleepless nights this seasons. And no amount of wishful thinking will change that. So stop the madness. Most of you remind me of the Voo-Doo doctors, playing psychological games hoping it could work, but knowing it has no effect

  • Craig W.O. Henry

    Hello when is it wrong to have an opinion? Jordan is allowed to have one. If he feels Kobe is a better player than Lebron it’s his opinion! Personally I like Lebron-but really Kobe (I hate the lakers)is a better jump shot all around shooter-I ain’t stupid-and just having that alone will make you a better ball player when you can score at will-Lebron is damm near all over the court-he’s a all around basketball player-but your not sure if his shots are gonna drop. The reason I think Jordan is the greatest compared to Kobe-is that Jordan was methodical and logical in his play-very calibrated and decisive how he was gonna destroy his opponent. I have yet to see that kind of control in Kobe-he just goes off and make stellar shots-Stellar!

  • Ivoine W.

    Furthermore, I would like to add that many great players who have been inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame won NO CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS! So while winning a ring should be the ultimate goal, greatness has never been measured only by rings, but by overall performances. You armchair coaches and experts on everything should be comforted to know that the people that you are getting stressed over will live a comfortable life. Basketball is only entertainment and the players are the actors, nothing more, nothing less. So focus on things that effect you personally, and make sure your livelihood is protected because LeBron and others are going to live well whether we like it or not.

  • cody

    Why so hard on Jordan, what about all the other nba stars who make there comment about who was better Charles, C.Web, ect ect even themselfs they were asked that very question. It’s basketball people what ever happened to likeing basketball because you loved the game so much look at all you people and the way you are towards today’s players the greats of are generation so to speak the Dr. J’s the Birds the Worthy’s the AC Green’s ect ect I love this game wait I beleive thats an nba slogan I love this game. Well it seems to me it’s all about your team and your team only it’s cool to do some team bashing when it’s play off run time or your team is playing another team but this player hating is just flat out played out kobe is great lebron is great if your in the nba your great remember how much you love the game and foget the hype and bull sh%$ media craze and watch the game cause you love it don’t become a hater.

  • Anthony Young

    KOBE IS THE BEST OF ALL TIME. LEBRON STILL SHOOTS HALF COURT SHOTS, WHILE KOBE WONT EVEN HAVE AN CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS ROCK LOL… NOW THATS IN TRUE PLAYER THAT LOVES THE GAME.

  • jesseg

    kobe is good
    lebron is better and only 25…..CARLIEAR…COMO ON HOW MANY CHAMPIONSHIPS DID KOBE HAVE AT THAT AGE…..

  • eric

    Kobe or LeBron? Lets forget about the championships for a sec and focus on SKILLS. LeBron is more athletic than he is talented — skillwise that is. What are the strongest aspecs of Lebron’s game? dunking(athletics), “chased down” blocks(athletics), barging/ muscling his way to the hole(athletics), and pulling long three’s, passing ( a little). Kobe on the other hand has mid-range, post, shoot the three, lock down defense 1 on 1, good help defense, denying the ball, drawing fouls, making others around him better, leader on and off the court, gets in the paint,High IQ such as positiong, makes good and smart passes with or without a double team, and HEART. I thought LeBron had it but I beg to differ after seeing him quit against the Celtics and him leaving HIS team to play with 2 other superstars thus, making it easier to win a championship. Kobe all the way.

  • Charles Ball

    Read Brian’s comment posted a few days ago folk’s. He know’s his B-Ball! As for you Labron v.s. Kobe Folks; No question the jury is still out. You are gonna have to wait a few years to answer this question. Right now the winner has to be Kobe. He has the rings plain and simple. Dig Deep fans don’t rush to judge. M.J. is right about alot of things!

  • RealTalk

    I can not believe this. Anybody who knows basketball, knows Lebron is better than Kobe. You can pull the 5 rings out ya ass all you want, but Kobe always had good players around him. His first 3 rings were Shaq’s team. I read all these comments about Kobe is, this and that..but nobody wants to talk about Pau Gasol, who carried that team the last 2 years. Lebron is a walking triple double, in fact..he going to average that throughout the season with a ring…The Lakers are not a lock next year, they might not make it out the second round. Pau Gasol made Kobe look good, he was more consistent and efficient all year.The lakers were not even that good. The Lakers should thank the refs for game 7.

  • BeLogical

    READ THIS: its kinda funny that everyone is goin by opinion just Be Logical and look at both there stats lebron james beats kobe out in EVERY SINGLE STAT years idk y that doesn’t matter??? And its very obvious and common sense that kobe always had a team and lebron never has that explains the ring argument and lebron wants to surround himself with the talent to win in this team game wats wrong w/ dat….. He may not havv the competitivness or “killer instint” as kobe but he’s better just bcuz a player wants to win more doesn’t make them better in that case a lot of bball players are WAY better than lebron james and kobe is a better shooter but for a couple years lebrons percentage behind 3 is only 2 percent less than kobe and lebron kills out every stat frum where kobe wuz at that age idk y this argument isn’t obvious

  • http://myspace.com/notorious707 Notorious

    Thank you for pointing out tha obvious BeLogical! i dont understand how these people dont take the stats sheet into consideration, kobe over lebron? i dont think so, not that im a lebron fan but c’mon guys, look at the stats

  • Rex Obviate

    to say Kobe has the better team is to take a crap on all the people Kobe and Lebron played with/for. Those men get their paychecks just like the next man. All this shoulda, woulda, coulda is for a bunch of girls.

    You can only take them on their own merits. Many people have made it to the finals with little or no help…if you want to say that about Lebron. But rule #1 of competition. There is no 2nd place. Even Lebron will tell you fanboys that.

    Rex Obviate

  • Rex Obviate

    Which came first Notorious, Belogical? The chicken or the egg? Which makes you best? Stat leader or Champion?

    As for age. You are pulling at straws. Sure Lebron scored more has better stats in his time as opposed to Kobe’s…But so what… John Elway did not win the big dance until he was well over the average QB age. Does that make him worse than some loser who lit up the stats and is now a back up? Marino never even got a ring..who doubts his talents?

    So the question is not which has the most talent…and if that is the question..it is a queer question to truly ponder with anything other than “my perspective is…” The question should be who has mad the most difference for their team. If this is the case. Lebron shows up during the regular season and is all but moot in the post season once past the 1st round.

    Rex Obviate

  • Bob Lee

    to the guy who said not winning titles doesn’t diminish one’s greatness, I point you toward Dan Marino.

  • BeLogical

    Wooooow… So what to stats??? That’s the only thing the game is measured by that u can actually compare and record throughout all of history all the way back and we’re not juss talking about someone who lit up the stat sheet we’re talkin about lebron james who carry one of the most horrible teams on his back for 7 years a team that w/o him didn’t make the playoffs and went almost every year w/ him kobes team would make the playoffs w/o him its phil jackson that makes the lakers lebron made mike browns idiotic azz look like a genious and got him coach of the year…. Now with that bein said lebron was the biggest “difference” for his team obviously he changed a whole organization around single handedly but its still a team sport and lebron only had role players that were able to fit rite in and score 30 pnts every once in a while wen teams would dble and trple team lebron and those r nite lebron would givv the ball away and rack up assists and conclusively still make it happen for his team but in the playoffs all they havv is lebron it takes good enough pcs put in the rite place lebron can’t hld everybody on the court even tho seemingly possible wen he comes outta nowhere to catch mo’s or anthony’s guy on a fb and glass their shot…. I’m not tryna convert any kobe fans I just want everyone to be honest forreal the only argument that kobe is better is rings y dnt stats matter and w/ rings u would havv to take circumstances into consideration to be fair so just look at everything collectively and see that kobe is a fukkin beast but lebron is just nastier!! He’s a better all around player(EVERY STAT)

  • http://www.nicetick.com Jordan

    Yeah right! LeBron James is no where near Kobe’s shoot and dribble and Kobe’s no where near Jordan’s elite game play. But let’s not compare them all, as all of them are truly the best players of their time. Jordan on the other hand has commented with modesty and honestly, he is nevertheless right about it.

  • Dar

    Why does everyone always have to trash talk Kobe. Kobe bryant came straight from high school, a 17 year old kid with so much talent, watch his high school videos and see for yourself. Listen to Shaquille oneals interviews, he says for himself that Himself and kobe are the best big man lil man there will ever be. Everyone is making it seem as if the lakers have alwas won championships or had the best players, there was a while through Kobe’s career that they didnt win any championships. But kobe has the strive, the passion, he practices non-stop, and he tries to perfect his game. No one is taking away from lebron being a good player, and Jordan being the best there ever was, but you have to give credit where its deserved, kobe has done alot for the lakers, has build on what he has, when pau came the first year the lakers didnt win a championship, they had to find a way to make it work, Kobe bryant is the best because he does have 5 rings, he does work very hard, he is consistant, Im sure if they wouldnt cuadruple team him and always passed him the ball he could be a higher scoring player still today. No one even knew about lebron james until about 2 years ago, were was he the last 5 years, while kobe has stayed consistant his entire career. Does lebron have a messed up finger, knee, and ankle? nah…Had kobe stayed healthy he would have been a much better player, if the refs would call fouls when there beating him up everytime he gets the ball he’d score more points. In my book hes the best player to ever play the game besides Jordan. When he retires well see what he’s accomplished.

  • Dar

    and its not called carrying a team for 7 years if they dont have any rings, or cant make it past the 1st round in the playoffs. (cavs and lebron) Lets see what happens now that lebrons got star players, see how far they go in the playoffs.

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